Sorry that was me, and I would have elaborated but had to head into a three hour meeting.
I don't have a problem with people "pirating" TV shows, and I by-and-large don't have a problem with them pirating music either, because in both of those cases I've read evidence and studies that show that it actually stimulates growth in sales for the legitimate product. I've yet to see similar evidence for movies, comic books and particularly computer games. The number of video game developers who've had to close up shop because of poor sales at a time when people are playing games more than ever is staggering.
Now the motion picture industry has yet to be hit that hard by piracy really, despite their claims, but as broadband internet improves and becomes more commonplace they will, and when ticket sales start falling the studios are going to be forced to spend less and less money on the films they make. Now many people would probably be overjoyed at the prospect of a low-budget Hollywood environment, but I'm not one of them.
Faulty business model? Probably. Failed? Not yet. But it probably will, and I'm terrified of what might replace it. Almost as terrified as I am of the "democratisation" of television through the use of Internet micro-audiences.
Why can't I buy a DVD of a movie the day it's released? Well, I can. It's called "Piracy". If I could buy or hire it from a legitimate source I would. What I will not do is pay full price for it in the cinema if I don't think it's worth a cinematic release.
Last I checked I am the customer.
The customer doesn't care about the supplier. The customer just wants to watch the damn movie.
Holy-wierd has actually got a damn big opening to make even more money out of me through simultaneous release. They could sell me a movie ticket (Because I prefer to watch movies in the cinema because they are in a cinema not because they are in a cinema first. I understand I'm not alone in this, BTW) then sell me the DVD on the way out of the cinema and then sell me the special edition with all the bits about 6 months down the track. They don't offer me this choice.
Again, "Your failed business model is not my problem".
What I will not do is pay full price for it in the cinema if I don't think it's worth a cinematic release.
Exactly. So you wait for the DVD release. And if you don't think it's worth that, then you wait for it to be broadcast on free to air television.
This isn't directed at you personally, but I've become mightily annoyed over the years at people who have the attitude of (and this is an example) "The new Star Wars suck! I'm not giving Lucas a cent of my money! I'm just gonna download them off the net!" No, no. If you do not think something is worth paying for, you don't buy it. You don't get to "steal" it (in the loosest definition of theft, of course - I understand the counter-arguments).
This is totally not meant to upset you or offend you, and is a genuine question (see, you can never tell when people are being serious on the Interweb): really? Like, you're actually upset about it? Or are you upset in that cranky fan "they've ruined my book! Gah!!" kind of a way?
No she's not cranky at you. She's cranky at the trailer.
Trust me.
That trailer? Really really bad.
It didn't help that about 5 minutes later we got the "Stardust" trailer. Now that looks like a fun movie. "Ooh! It looks like it'll be like 'Princess Bride!'"
I almost cried. I had tears in my eyes and an involuntary "What the FUCK?" escaped my lips once.
I knew they were going to make Will American, and had made peace with that. But ... I'll explain later on my blog. Since it was only a couple of minutes of trailer, I'll try to keep my whining to a minimum!
And probably both of your options are the same option. If I didn't care about the book as a fan, i wouldn't be upset as a fan. :-)
![[identity profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/openid.png){kind=small}
![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
timeasmymeasure
no subject
Date: 2007-09-05 03:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-05 03:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-05 11:04 pm (UTC)You are rewarding their bad behaviour!
Get a dodgy bali pirate copy if you must but don't give those bastards a damn red cent.
no subject
Date: 2007-09-06 12:54 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-06 12:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-06 04:23 am (UTC)I don't have a problem with people "pirating" TV shows, and I by-and-large don't have a problem with them pirating music either, because in both of those cases I've read evidence and studies that show that it actually stimulates growth in sales for the legitimate product. I've yet to see similar evidence for movies, comic books and particularly computer games. The number of video game developers who've had to close up shop because of poor sales at a time when people are playing games more than ever is staggering.
Now the motion picture industry has yet to be hit that hard by piracy really, despite their claims, but as broadband internet improves and becomes more commonplace they will, and when ticket sales start falling the studios are going to be forced to spend less and less money on the films they make. Now many people would probably be overjoyed at the prospect of a low-budget Hollywood environment, but I'm not one of them.
Faulty business model? Probably. Failed? Not yet. But it probably will, and I'm terrified of what might replace it. Almost as terrified as I am of the "democratisation" of television through the use of Internet micro-audiences.
no subject
Date: 2007-09-06 04:37 am (UTC)Why can't I buy a DVD of a movie the day it's released? Well, I can. It's called "Piracy". If I could buy or hire it from a legitimate source I would. What I will not do is pay full price for it in the cinema if I don't think it's worth a cinematic release.
Last I checked I am the customer.
The customer doesn't care about the supplier. The customer just wants to watch the damn movie.
Holy-wierd has actually got a damn big opening to make even more money out of me through simultaneous release. They could sell me a movie ticket (Because I prefer to watch movies in the cinema because they are in a cinema not because they are in a cinema first. I understand I'm not alone in this, BTW) then sell me the DVD on the way out of the cinema and then sell me the special edition with all the bits about 6 months down the track. They don't offer me this choice.
Again, "Your failed business model is not my problem".
no subject
Date: 2007-09-06 05:07 am (UTC)Exactly. So you wait for the DVD release. And if you don't think it's worth that, then you wait for it to be broadcast on free to air television.
This isn't directed at you personally, but I've become mightily annoyed over the years at people who have the attitude of (and this is an example) "The new Star Wars suck! I'm not giving Lucas a cent of my money! I'm just gonna download them off the net!" No, no. If you do not think something is worth paying for, you don't buy it. You don't get to "steal" it (in the loosest definition of theft, of course - I understand the counter-arguments).
no subject
Date: 2007-09-06 07:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-05 11:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-06 12:53 am (UTC)Just curious.
no subject
Date: 2007-09-06 12:57 am (UTC)Trust me.
That trailer? Really really bad.
It didn't help that about 5 minutes later we got the "Stardust" trailer. Now that looks like a fun movie. "Ooh! It looks like it'll be like 'Princess Bride!'"
no subject
Date: 2007-09-06 04:15 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-06 01:09 am (UTC)I had tears in my eyes and an involuntary "What the FUCK?" escaped my lips once.
I knew they were going to make Will American, and had made peace with that. But ... I'll explain later on my blog. Since it was only a couple of minutes of trailer, I'll try to keep my whining to a minimum!
And probably both of your options are the same option. If I didn't care about the book as a fan, i wouldn't be upset as a fan.
:-)
no subject
Date: 2007-09-06 04:15 am (UTC)"What are you talking out?" he replied, pointing to a shelf behind. "My books are fine. They're over there."
no subject
Date: 2007-09-06 01:11 am (UTC)