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The last few cons have had a programme made almost entirely by suggestions submitted by the public, with the panels that appeared being almost exclusively the ones where volunteers being on them.

Yes, we could probably change the ratios, but we need more volunteers. This does not mean the same old tired people on more panels. That is a path that leads only to darkness.

So if you don't like the makeup of the programme, go round up more volunteers and make them volunteer! Stack the deck. Spoil the programmer for choice. Then (and only then) can you bitch that *insert fanboi preference of the week* doesn't happen enough in the programme.

Date: 2009-04-16 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angriest.livejournal.com
I personally think any of us who are on panels year in year out should start aggressively finding new people and inviting them onto panels with us. We're the ones mostly likely to be on the programme each year, and we should be doing our damnedest to bring new people up with us.

Date: 2009-04-16 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tommmo.livejournal.com
Agreed 100%. I did this with 2 of my panels this year, and intend to keep on doing it for future cons. It's the best way to go about it.

Date: 2009-04-16 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangedave.livejournal.com
I was on panels with several people whose first panel it was. mostly it went well (one panel where the new person said very little).

Date: 2009-04-16 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callistra.livejournal.com
I rather like that idea too.

Date: 2009-04-16 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tommmo.livejournal.com
I don't know about other years, but in 2007 a really sizeable portion of the programme was panels that were devised by me personally, or gained via group brainstorming sessions (where you tend to come up with fairly vague concepts rather than concrete topics). I found that direct submissions from the fan community were much fewer than I expected, no matter how much I asked for people to submit them.

While more people should be submitting fully-formed panels ideas, I think these brainstorming sessions are one of the most important pre-con things, and perhaps shouldn't be left only to those who attend the OPMs. It's possible that cherrypicked focus groups might be a more productive avenue.

You're absolutely right about new panelists, though. This year I rounded up 3 new volunteers, so I feel like I'm on the right track there. I think an important thing to remember is that first-timers don't usually want to go on panels with intimidating, complex topics. Let's give them something straightforward to sink their teeth into.

Date: 2009-04-16 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangedave.livejournal.com
Yeah, that is pretty much my experience. I asked for direct submissions from the public, but I didn't get that many. I specifically didn't get submissions on topics where I directly asked for them. A lot panels where made up by me (or [livejournal.com profile] angriest or by group effort, not because I think that is the best idea, but because I simply didn't get enough suggestions.

And people who haven't done it don't know how to create a good panel instinctively. Often a little rephrasing or restructuring of a panel can improve it significantly.

Date: 2009-04-16 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tommmo.livejournal.com
And of course, once you and your helpers have devised a huge list of panels, you have to actively hunt down panelists to be on all of them. That's another area where people aren't always super-forthcoming.

I think it's also important for more people to submit what they'd like to see, and not just what they think they can run. It gives the programmer more to work with, which is always nice. I've heard a few times people say "I had an idea for a panel, but I wouldn't be able to run it so I didn't tell anyone." People need to be encouraged that it's okay to just throw some ideas out there without feeling responsible for them. This is something I'm planning to focus on next year - lots of panel submissions, whether I can run them or not!

Date: 2009-04-16 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheshirenoir.livejournal.com
Filling programmes is the bit I find the hardest. Ideas - easy. Programme structure - easy. Panelists - hard...

Date: 2009-04-16 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tommmo.livejournal.com
Yes indeedy. They will almost never come to you. I think we need a big database of people willing to be panelists and what they know about, so that programmers can just scan through it and find people to ask. Oh how I would've loved such a thing back in 2006 :)

Date: 2009-04-16 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tommmo.livejournal.com
(which is not to say we should rely on the same old people being on panels every year, but it's useful to at least know who those people are - something which isn't always the case)

Date: 2009-04-16 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangedave.livejournal.com
Yeah, definitely. Hunting down panellists is a huge part of the programmer job. And ideas for good panels without panellists attached are always useful - you are always looking for things like good panel for the guests to be on.

Date: 2009-04-16 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] utopos.livejournal.com
Maybe a database of members of previous cons (or even better - other cons) who have filled out a fandom knowledge/coverage questionnaire would be a way to go.

Maybe the kind of questionnaire that should be given out at a Swancon membership stand at a Waicon, perhaps?

Volunteering For Panels

Date: 2009-07-24 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyu-kage.livejournal.com
I finally sat on a panel for the first time last year at Wastelands and found the experience nerve racking, but ultimately enjoyable.

I'd be willing to sit on more panels, but it ultimately boils down to two things: Time And Interest.

For example, I've been asked in the past by friends to sit on panels, and haven't been able to because of work.

Re: Volunteering For Panels

Date: 2009-07-24 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheshirenoir.livejournal.com
Ok, now you have officially piqued my interest... ;-)

*who are you?*

Feel free to e-mail me off list cheshirenoir AT gmail DOT com

Re: Volunteering For Panels

Date: 2009-07-28 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyu-kage.livejournal.com
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